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    The scientific dating of the Ramayana



    Did Rama exist?


    A billion Hindus believe he did and an unbroken tradition of Rama worship has continued for thousands of years in India. Rama is also a hero in Indonesia (despite it being a Muslim country), in Thailand and in several other South East Asian countries. Without the weight of historical tradition and without the stamp of truth, the Ramayana would have been swept by the tidal waves of conquests that swept India.

    But there are others who argue that there is no proof Rama lived. The British and their acolytes like Max Muller were primarily responsible for the prevailing stereotypes about Indian history, religion and culture. Muller, who was in the pay of the East India Company, went so far as to describe the Vedas as childish poetry.

    In her History of India, academician Romilla Thapar describes the celebrated Rig-Veda as “primitive animism”, the Mahabharata as the glorification of a “local feud” between two Aryan tribes, the Ramayana as “a description of local conflicts between the agriculturists of the Ganges Valley and the more primitive hunting and food-gathering societies of the Vindhyan region” (sic).

    But the Ramayana, Mahabharata, and other ancient Indian texts like the Vedas, Puranas and Upanishads are true records of Indian history, interwoven with mythology, philosophy and spirituality. Just because they talk about battles between gods and demons is no reason to dismiss their accounts of kings and other contemporary developments as great story telling. It is indeed amazing that the Bible mentions numerous fantastic events like the Great Deluge, Pillar of Fire, instantaneous healing of cut-off ears, and is yet considered a history of Christianity and Jews, while the ancient Indian texts are considered “mere” mythology.

    Thankfully, science is not parochial. Just like the laws of motion cannot be questioned, scientific evidence is incontrovertible. Science also has a habit of shaking up the deepest foundations if they rest on a bed of lies. The Catholic Church had to accept (the Pope admitted it only in 2009) that the earth was not the centre of the universe, a discovery made by Galileo 400 years ago (and which the Hindus knew thousands of years before that).

    In the late 1980s divers of the National Institute of Oceanography, Goa, led by leading archaeologist S.R. Rao discovered Krishna’s sunken capital Dwarka, precisely at the place in Gujarat where Krishna mentioned it was located. Palaces, pillars, fort walls, a port, anchors, and various artefacts have been discovered. This is perhaps the first instance in modern Indian history that a historical fact was established through scientific methods. It establishes the fact that Krishna existed. So the Mahabharata was true, and since it mentions incidents from the Ramayana, then doesn’t it prove that Rama also existed?

    Also, literary references to the characters from the Ramayana Era provide limits after which the Ramayana could not have occurred. For example, Valmiki is referred to in the Taittiriya Brahmana (dated to 4600 BCE) and therefore Ramayana must have been written before it was composed.

    The wonderful thing about the Ramayana is that when Valmiki wrote the epic, he made it idiot-proof. He packed so much information about the various planetary positions of those days, the geography of the areas mentioned in the epic, the seasonal events, and about the genealogy of various kings that it is virtually a no-brainer to establish the dates on which those events occurred.


    Genealogical links and archaeological findings provide clues to the dating of the Ramayana era. According to writer B.R. Haran, “In no other nation and no other religion in the world, true history is so meticulously documented, supported by umpteen evidences. Any ancient history is supported with evidences of architecture and literature. The Sangam literature is the documented evidence for the existence and ruling of Tamil kings, and similarly, Ramayana and Mahabharata are the documented evidence for Rama and Krishna. Questioning Ramayana and Mahabharata is like questioning the very existence of India.”

    Archaeological and literary methods can only provide approximate datelines. For determining the precise time of the Ramayana events, scientists use astronomical calculations. Several of India’s leading astronomers, astrologers and retired nuclear scientists have come together to establish the dates of India’s ancient history.

    So how is astronomical dating done? Says eminent historian Dr P.V. Vartak: “Sage Valmiki has recorded the dates of events in detail, albeit by describing the positions of stars and planets. To decipher the astronomical encodings has not been a trivial task, and not many have attempted to do so. It should be noted that the ancient Indians had a perfect method of time measurement. They recorded the 'tithis', days according to the nakshatra on which the moon prevailed, the months, the seasons and even the different solstices. By noting a particular arrangement of the astronomical bodies, which occurs once in many thousand years, the dates of the events can be calculated.”

    Dr Vartak has taken hundreds of illustrated passages from the epic to establish dates. Valmiki records the birth of Rama as Chaitra Shuddha Navami (9th), on Punarvasu Nakshatra and five planets were exalted then; Sun in Mesha up to 10 deg., Mars in Capricorn at 28 deg., Jupiter in Cancer at 5 deg., Venus in Pisces at 27 deg. and Saturn in Libra at 20 deg. (Bala Kanda.18/Shloka 8,9). December 4, 7323 B.C. therefore is the date of birth of Rama, when the four planets exalted. Ramayana occurred over 9300 years ago.

    Frankly, only an astrologer/astronomer can make any sense of it. I’m not in the habit of quoting passages I don’t understand but Dr Vartak’s passages illustrate to the reader how dating can be done with sufficient information. No guesswork or computer number crunching can come up with these dates. Events – such as an eclipse, planetary or astral positioning or a comet sighting – mentioned in an epic like the Ramayana may have occurred subsequently or prior. Over a period of say, 20,000 years, a particular event could have happened a hundred times.

    Stars shift position too vis-a-vis the earth so the star field we see in the night sky is not what the ancients saw 9000 years ago. This is called precession and has to be factored into all calculations. The idea is to back up astronomical data with other reference points regarding geography (like how many of those eclipses took place over Ayodhya) and reduce the probability of error.

    Who knows, further research could come up with more surprises. Whether such dating finally places Rama’s reign to 10,000 or 5000 years ago is immaterial. Yes, a final closure would be welcome but what cannot be wished away is that religion currently is not based on facts, but is a matter of faith. The Indian government, with its appeasement plank, has even pleaded in court in a case regarding the Sethusamudram Canal that the Ramayana is a myth without any proof. Like I said earlier, when it comes to Hindu matters, it’s open season for everyone.

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    NASA Images Discover Ancient Bridge between India and Sri Lanka








    Space images taken by NASA reveal a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. The recently discovered bridge currently named as Adam´s Bridge is made of chain of shoals, c.18 mi (30 km) long.

    The bridge´s unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man made. The legends as well as Archeological studies reveal that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the a primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago and the bridge´s age is also almost equivalent.

    This information is a crucial aspect for an insight into the mysterious legend called Ramayana, which was supposed to have taken place in tredha yuga (more than 1,700,000 years ago).

    In this epic, there is a mentioning about a bridge, which was built between Rameshwaram (India) and Srilankan coast under the supervision of a dynamic and invincible figure called Rama who is supposed to be the incarnation of the supreme.

    This information may not be of much importance to the archeologists who are interested in exploring the origins of man, but it is sure to open the spiritual gates of the people of the world to have come to know an ancient history linked to the Indian mythology.



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    Quote Originally Posted by guest. View Post
    NASA Images Discover Ancient Bridge between India and Sri Lanka








    Space images taken by NASA reveal a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. The recently discovered bridge currently named as Adam´s Bridge is made of chain of shoals, c.18 mi (30 km) long.

    The bridge´s unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man made. The legends as well as Archeological studies reveal that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the a primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago and the bridge´s age is also almost equivalent.

    This information is a crucial aspect for an insight into the mysterious legend called Ramayana, which was supposed to have taken place in tredha yuga (more than 1,700,000 years ago).

    In this epic, there is a mentioning about a bridge, which was built between Rameshwaram (India) and Srilankan coast under the supervision of a dynamic and invincible figure called Rama who is supposed to be the incarnation of the supreme.

    This information may not be of much importance to the archeologists who are interested in exploring the origins of man, but it is sure to open the spiritual gates of the people of the world to have come to know an ancient history linked to the Indian mythology.


    ok here is the proof of that bridge, is there any proof of flying carts and brahmastra , cloning was possible that time, bcoz just yesterday i came to know that kidnapped sita ji was not the real one , she was just a clone
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    Ashok vatika (Sri Lanka)where Ravana kept Sita





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    Quote Originally Posted by amitsush View Post
    ok here is the proof of that bridge, is there any proof of flying carts and brahmastra , cloning was possible that time, bcoz just yesterday i came to know that kidnapped sita ji was not the real one , she was just a clone
    hamare samaj me bas ek ye kamu hi bahot badi thi...

    ham apne GUR (HUNAR) apne kisi ko bata kar hi jate the na ki likh kar...

    jaise agar main koi VAIDH ya HAKEEM hun to main apne NUSKHE ya TARIKE sirf apne bete ko hi bataunga ...kisi ke liye likh kar nahi...

    aur agar galti se mera beta mere profession me nahi aata to wo gyan bekar chala jata tha...

    issi tarah BRAMHASTRA/FLYING CART bhi chale gaye...

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    The Ravana Palace which was burnt by Hanuman




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    Quote Originally Posted by guest. View Post
    hamare samaj me bas ek ye kamu hi bahot badi thi...

    ham apne GUR (HUNAR) apne kisi ko bata kar hi jate the na ki likh kar...

    jaise agar main koi VAIDH ya HAKEEM hun to main apne NUSKHE ya TARIKE sirf apne bete ko hi bataunga ...kisi ke liye likh kar nahi...

    aur agar galti se mera beta mere profession me nahi aata to wo gyan bekar chala jata tha...

    issi tarah BRAMHASTRA/FLYING CART bhi chale gaye...
    raja ram ji ke liye family se bad kar praja kyon ho gyi thi, aakhir shaadi karte time dukh sukh mein saath dene ka vada karte hai pati patni, ram ji ko dobara apna rajya chor kar sita ji ke saath chale jana chaihiye tha na, ayodhya to chote bhai bhi chala lete
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    Quote Originally Posted by guest. View Post
    Ashok vatika (Sri Lanka)where Ravana kept Sita




    This location is not in Sri Lanka, this surely is somehwere in India.

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    As per mythology, there are 4 Yugs.
    Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga.
    Satya Yug or the Age of Truth is said to last for four thousand divine years, Treta Yuga for three thousand, Dwapara Yug for two thousand and Kali Yuga will last for one thousand divine Years that equals to 432,000 earthly years.
    Ramayana was said to be happened in Satya Yug.
    So, the age of Ramayana could be few lacs years ago, we don't have clear evidence of many things supposed to be happened 400-500 years ago. How can we get proofs of Ramayana?

    Shrilankan Govt.is trying hard to promote these places linked to Ramayana, for their tourism business.

    Only Lord Rama knows the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guest. View Post
    The Ravana Palace which was burnt by Hanuman



    This isn't in Sri Lanka either!

    Well there is a location , which is believed to be the loacation where Sita was kept!

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    interesting... keep it up!!
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    Sugriva Cave


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    Mizaaj-E-Ishq Mein Aib-O-Hunar Dekhe Nahi Jatay...!!!


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    Sanjivani Mountain from where Sanjivani Booti was acquired to save Lakshman which has many exotic herbs even now
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    Floating Stone from Ramsethu(bridge made by lord Rama and Vanara sena)





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    Mizaaj-E-Ishq Mein Aib-O-Hunar Dekhe Nahi Jatay...!!!


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    Ramayana is just an epic written by Valmiki. it never happened...

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