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    Default 'Does Team India value their No.1 status?

    In a scathing criticism of India's performance in the opening Test, former English captain Nasser Hussain said Mahendra Singh Dhoni's men don't seem to value their number one status given how underprepared they looked in the match.
    "I am so pleased that England won because they set the perfect template on how you should prepare for and then perform in a very important game of Test cricket.
    "India were exactly the opposite. They just turned up with totally inadequate preparation and expected everything to be alright on the night. Do they not value their status as the best Test team in the world? They did not seem to here," Hussain wrote in the Daily Mail.
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    Default 'India expected Zaheer and Tendulkar to come good without playing a Test since Januar

    Hussain said England have had the best possible preparation for the series and it is now showing in their performance.
    "Everything that England have done this summer has been geared towards making sure their players are as ready as possible for this Test series, including Andrew Strauss playing at Taunton and Stuart Broad playing for Notts," he said.
    "In contrast, India expected their top strike bowler in Zaheer Khan and their premier batsman in Sachin Tendulkar to rock up without playing a Test since January and just have a bit of a hit and giggle against Somerset before the big one. They did not help themselves," he added.
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    Default India simply were not ready for England in this game'

    Hussain said the English team is in such fine form that India were perhaps not ready for them.
    "India simply were not ready for them in this game. India have real issues. Zaheer is injured, quite probably because his body was not right for this game, and it is difficult to see how he can play in the second Test," he said.
    "After that match India just have a two-day game at Northants to get ready for the third Test, when they will again have little opportunity to get themselves right for the second half of the series. What's going on with them?" he asked.
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    Hussain also criticised the Indian Cricket Board's insistence on not having the LBWs covered under the Decision Review System.
    "For us to have a halfway house, mish-mash of a decision review system in this series has been driven by India and frankly it's confusing and pathetic. Either we have the full system or we don't use it at all. Let's not say we can have HotSpot because India like it but we can't have Hawk-Eye because they don't," he said.
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    nasser hussain was an average player in his own career..bloody hell he was da one who dipped england from heights in graham gooch n michael artherton's times to no.8 rankin' in odis n no.6 in tests!
    he talkin' bout no.1 status is known as blah blah blah!

    indians who feel their team is incompetent..get a life..the test series is not over..being a fan means stayin' behind ur team even when da chips r down..especially when da chips r down!
    next few matches..when dey get better aclimatised n a fitter bowlin' unit..england is gonna suffer indian curry too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Hannibal Smith View Post
    nasser hussain was an average player in his own career..bloody hell he was da one who dipped england from heights in graham gooch n michael artherton's times to no.8 rankin' in odis n no.6 in tests!
    he talkin' bout no.1 status is known as blah blah blah!

    indians who feel their team is incompetent..get a life..the test series is not over..being a fan means stayin' behind ur team even when da chips r down..especially when da chips r down!
    next few matches..when dey get better aclimatised n a fitter bowlin' unit..england is gonna suffer indian curry too!

    Ye to manega ke india accha nehi kheli.........becz of lack of practice ya england ko halke mein liya........and india ko Zahir aur Tendu. ke uper iitna peasure nehi dalna chaiye tha......aur bhajji bhi to flop raha
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    Quote Originally Posted by rishabhd View Post
    Ye to manega ke india accha nehi kheli.........becz of lack of practice ya england ko halke mein liya........and india ko Zahir aur Tendu. ke uper iitna peasure nehi dalna chaiye tha......aur bhajji bhi to flop raha
    harbhajan got 1 wicket n so called best spinner in da world swann got 2 of them in da whole test match!
    he was expensive coz he bowled in da first innings n pietersen got well set!
    Indians r slow starters n injuries coupled wid sehwag's absence made dem lose the match instead of savin' it!
    anyways..upcomin' matches the indians r capable of a turn around!

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    Somehow, I feel Indian team is missing Balance which is so importantly required. It is evident that Sehwag and Zaheer wont be present in the next match as well.

    Sachin, against these bowlers cant score until we wait for those bowlers to get themselves injured. Dhoni is never a class player who can score and perform consistently like Sangakara. This leaves us with old warhorses like Dravid, Laxman and Raina on the batting side and Praveen, Munaf, Ishant as main strike bowlers. Its true Swann took only 2 wkts, but there was a vast difference the way Swann bowled and our Bhajji bowled.

    You cant win a test match until you take 20 wickets which at present seems unlikely for India. Nasser Hussein may be an ordinary cricketer in his time, but certainly is in a better position to judge English conditions as he was captain of England team after all. Personally speaking, I think he is right.

    Ever since, Kumble has retired, Bhajji has looked absolutely lost. It was Kumble always who would tie up the batmen and keep him completely confused with his variety, and thus wickets always kept falling from both ends. I think this balance is really missing in Indian team at present. Anyways, lets see how they perform next. All the best to the team.

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    Interesting article in TOI on same subject::

    This team is on top of the heap because of a statistical sleight of hand.

    What are the stats? Since October 2008, India have played 11 series before this one, winning eight of them and drawing the other three. That's impressive statistics. But they hide the fact that five of those series wins have come at home and the other three are against Bangladesh, West Indies and New Zealand - the three weakest teams.

    India have played South Africa at home and away in this period and only managed drawn series on both occasions. Similarly, they have been unable to get past the Sri Lankans on their home turf.

    Still, India were No.1 on the charts. And the England series was the acid test. So, how did the "champions" approach the challenge for the crown? With total lack of preparation, physically and mentally, and without the requisite hunger to remain No. 1. They carried some players with niggles and injuries, and some others, like Harbhajan Singh, by virtue of past reputation.

    While India have been without Virender Sehwag, a key player, and have also missed Zaheer Khan and Gautam Gambhir for most of this series, West Indies under Clive Lloyd and the Aussies under Steve Waugh have also missed key players from time to time, but they didn't simply throw in the towel. The truth is that this Indian team doesn't seem to have a champion's strength of character.

    The statistical miracle, sadly, is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracefulguy View Post
    Interesting article in TOI on same subject::

    This team is on top of the heap because of a statistical sleight of hand.

    What are the stats? Since October 2008, India have played 11 series before this one, winning eight of them and drawing the other three. That's impressive statistics. But they hide the fact that five of those series wins have come at home and the other three are against Bangladesh, West Indies and New Zealand - the three weakest teams.

    India have played South Africa at home and away in this period and only managed drawn series on both occasions. Similarly, they have been unable to get past the Sri Lankans on their home turf.

    Still, India were No.1 on the charts. And the England series was the acid test. So, how did the "champions" approach the challenge for the crown? With total lack of preparation, physically and mentally, and without the requisite hunger to remain No. 1. They carried some players with niggles and injuries, and some others, like Harbhajan Singh, by virtue of past reputation.

    While India have been without Virender Sehwag, a key player, and have also missed Zaheer Khan and Gautam Gambhir for most of this series, West Indies under Clive Lloyd and the Aussies under Steve Waugh have also missed key players from time to time, but they didn't simply throw in the towel. The truth is that this Indian team doesn't seem to have a champion's strength of character.

    The statistical miracle, sadly, is over.
    you have to agree with the fact that india went to england without any proper preparation..

    For being no. 1 side in the world you can't rely on 2-3 players.
    when australia were no. 1 they were so tough team that they were unbeatable and many good player did not get the chance to be in the side. now india giving reasons that there were no sehwag n zak...the other truth is that india not having any bench strenth..

    beside kohli,badri,pujara, lukinng no replacement of seniors and they r also not of no. 1 level. The bowling dept lacking player ..for any irfan,RP, Agarkar there is no come back.

    In the mean time due to IPL and busy schedule BCCI and board don't give any importance to 1st class cricket or sending A team to outside tours ..

    England 118 / 8 in 1st inning & they win the match their bowler bat very well..Stuart broad , 64 & 46 run ,Bresnan made 90 runs

    while india loose 6 wicket in 21 run That is the differance..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_jangra View Post
    you have to agree with the fact that india went to england without any proper preparation..

    For being no. 1 side in the world you can't rely on 2-3 players.
    when australia were no. 1 they were so tough team that they were unbeatable and many good player did not get the chance to be in the side. now india giving reasons that there were no sehwag n zak...the other truth is that india not having any bench strenth..

    beside kohli,badri,pujara, lukinng no replacement of seniors and they r also not of no. 1 level. The bowling dept lacking player ..for any irfan,RP, Agarkar there is no come back.

    In the mean time due to IPL and busy schedule BCCI and board don't give any importance to 1st class cricket or sending A team to outside tours ..

    England 118 / 8 in 1st inning & they win the match their bowler bat very well..Stuart broad , 64 & 46 run ,Bresnan made 90 runs

    while india loose 6 wicket in 21 run That is the differance..
    Absolutely true.

    While England prepared for the test series, we were playing IPL. I do not know about their physical condition but either they compain of too much cricket or they complain of lack of match practice.

    And to add to the misery further, politics in selection....I wonder what Wridhhiman Saha and Wasim Jaffer done wrong to be not selected ???Dhoni, Bhajji Sachin are just a part, main villain is indeed the BCCI.

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    INDIA is still a gud side ....too much cricket is the reason for current performance....they are playing some hard cricket from past 1 yr.....players need rest i think...

    yes the thing goin wrong is selection of players .....players like wasim jaffer must be in the team and some players in replacement must b given rest..!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaps58 View Post
    INDIA is still a gud side ....too much cricket is the reason for current performance....they are playing some hard cricket from past 1 yr.....players need rest i think...

    yes the thing goin wrong is selection of players .....players like wasim jaffer must be in the team and some players in replacement must b given rest..!!
    Wow!! hit d nail on d head....

    Now ! you are getting naughty !!

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