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    Of what is happening these are the reasons..
    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhi_sena_mun View Post
    Treatment for 'gang rap victim "to shift Singapore raises many questions!!


    Question 1 - What is so bad for our country's medical services together, a suffering that can not save? Everyone raised a hand?
    Our country’s medical service is at par with any foreign country. Docs probably knew that girl is not going to survive despite best efforts.

    Question 2 - Why do so many doctors fitted him to say that we are unable to treat it?
    They told we are unable to treat her coz of govt pressure and to avoid further questions. Suppose if girl dies, there will be more pressure on the govt.

    Question 3 - If doctors are able to treat the government did this decision?
    Why govt took this decision is because, something happens to the girls life, if she dies, more pressure will be there on govt. there has been consistent pressure on the govt to take action. So to avoid more pressure the decision.

    Question 4 - not that club doctors and the government are hiding from the public?
    They are literally hiding from public and they did this drama of not being able to treat the patient only because they wanted to avoid public pressure and accusations.

    In addition to the statements made by the government for so many days?
    All eyewash

    This girl is confusing to shift to Singapore for treatment.
    Girl got shifted to Singapore because if something happens to the girl, the blame can be easily transferred off to the hospital in Singapore. Moresoever the girl if she was here, public and media got good access to know what is happening, inside out. Bahar bhejdiya toh maamla little by little thand padjayega, aur log bhool jayenge.


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    AT SINGAPORE HOSPITAL

    The rape victim arrived in Singapore on an air ambulance Thursday and was admitted to the intensive care unit of the Mount Elizabeth hospital, renowned for multi-organ transplant facilities.
    On Thursday night she remained in "extremely critical condition" as a team of specialists worked to stabilize her, Dr. Kelvin Loh, the hospital's chief executive officer, said in a statement. Before arriving in Singapore, she had already undergone three abdominal surgeries and suffered cardiac arrest, he said.

    courtesy: USA TODAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracefulguy View Post
    Very well said brother............

    The point is, the girl shud survive..........and as far as I knw..........even the parents do not knw wht treatment has been given till now to the girl........they are absolutely clueless as to wht is going on.........they were told the last moment tht the girl will be shifted to Singapore......

    Whtever it is.........the girl shud survive.....
    i really hope and pray for that girl to survive and become the face of a new revolution against crimes in india bro.......

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    No logic in shifting gang-rape victim, say Delhi doctors


    By Indo Asian News Service | IANS India Private Limited

    New Delhi, Dec 28 (IANS) As the 23-year-old gang-rape victim struggles for life in Singapore's Mount Elizabeth Hospital, doctors in the national capital said moving her abroad in such a condition was "unusual". There was "no logic" behind it, they said.
    "I can't understand the logic behind it, or rather it is unusual to transfer the girl from Delhi to Singapore when the patient has suffered a cardiac arrest, as I have been informed by the media," Samiran Nundy, chairman, department of surgical gastroenterology and organ transplantation, Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, told IANS.
    The 23-year-old victim was brutally beaten and raped by six men on a moving bus in Delhi Dec 16. She now fights for life with severe multiple intestinal, abdominal and other injuries. She was flown to Singapore's Mount Elizabeth Hospital late Wednesday night.
    "My suggestion would have been to stabilise her in India and get her out of the crisis; then do her intestinal transplant later. One cannot think about intestinal transplant at this moment. First, the infection spreading in her should be stopped, then one can think about transplant," Nundy said.
    Another senior doctor from the trauma centre of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, requesting anonymity, said: "Maybe it was politically logical to shift the patient. But as a doctor, I would say it is totally insensitive to shift the patient with her infection spreading. Shifting now, that too within a few hours of cardiac arrest, is thoughtless."
    Mount Elizabeth Hospital, where the woman is being treated, Thursday confirmed that she had a cardiac arrest in the early hours of Wednesday.
    Nundy also said that in case of intestinal transplant, chances of survival are five years in 60 percent of cases, and one year in 80 percent.
    Meanwhile, doctors treating the woman at the Mount Elizabeth Hospital in Singapore have said she had suffered "significant brain injury" and continued to be in an "extremely critical condition".
    Besides a prior cardiac arrest, the woman also had infection in her lungs and abdomen, "as well as significant brain injury", Kelvin Loh, the hospital's chief executive officer, was quoted as saying by the Straits Times.
    "The patient is currently struggling against odds, and fighting for her life," he said.
    He said a multi-disciplinary team of specialists has been working round-the-clock to treat her since her arrival Thursday. They were "doing everything possible to stabilise her condition over the next few days", he added.
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    Safdarjung doctors who treated Nirbhaya for 11 days sidelined


    By Kounteya Sinha, TNN | Dec 28, 2012, 12.38 AM IST

    NEW DELHI: The team of doctors in Safdarjung Hospital who worked 24x7 to keep Nirbhaya alive as she oscillated between life and death is surprised at not being allowed to accompany her to Singapore.

    The doctors feel that after tending to her for the past 11 days and being familiar with the gut-churning case, they should have been part of the team accompanying her to Singapore's Mount Elizabeth Hospital. Finally, only one doctor from Safdarjung, ICU in-charge Dr P K Verma, went along.

    In fact, Safdarjung officials conveyed this to the government, but their proposal was shot down on Wednesday afternoon, with the government deciding to involve private hospital Medanta Medicity: a call supposedly taken by home minister Sushilkumar Shinde which has raised eyebrows.

    Sources told TOI that the medical superintendent (MS) of Safdarjung Hospital Dr B D Athani visited Shinde's residence on Wednesday afternoon carrying passports of six experts from the hospital for a closed-door meeting that was attended by Intelligence Bureau chief Nehchal Sandhu, home secretary R K Singh and joint commissioner of police Vivek Gogia.

    The six-member Safdarjung team was to include surgeon Dr Rajkumar Chajera, who conducted the first surgery on Nirbhaya after she was brought to the hospital on December 16, Dr P K Verma and Dr Ranju Singh who were monitoring her round-the-clock in the intensive care unit, gynecologist Dr Rekha Bharti who was the specialist on call and two nurses who have been by her side all through.

    The Safdarjung doctors were stunned when the government asked cardiovascular surgeon Dr Naresh Trehan to put together a team from Medanta to accompany Nirbhaya to Singapore.

    "We found it strange that the team from Safdarjung Hospital which knew Nirbhaya's condition best was sidelined. In fact, it was after much discussion that even Dr Verma, who knew Nirbhaya's condition best, was taken on board," a health ministry source told TOI.

    Asked why Medanta was suddenly brought into the picture, Dr Trehan told TOI, "We have a special team of doctors trained in critical care to conduct emergency evacuations on air ambulances. That's why we were brought in."

    The government was mulling over the option of shifting Nirbhaya outside India since Monday night on the "basis of an intelligence report that a fatal conclusion to her life could see the national capital in turmoil". Nirbhaya was finally shifted on Wednesday night.

    Dr M C Mishra, chief of AIIMS trauma centre, was also supposed to accompany the medical team to Singapore. "But he backed out at the last moment. This delayed our schedule by two hours. The air ambulance was originally scheduled to depart Delhi at 9.30pm. It took off finally at 11.30pm," a health ministry official said.
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    @Ankhi: There are certain docs which might be somewht better in quality than UK or US docs..........but healthcare in India, in totality, is still in a very very primitive stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gracefulguy View Post
    @Ankhi: There are certain docs which might be somewht better in quality than UK or US docs..........but healthcare in India, in totality, is still in a very very primitive stage.
    NOT in AIIMS............ people from abroad come for operation there........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhi_sena_mun View Post
    NOT in AIIMS............ people from abroad come for operation there........

    ok.............good obsrvation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ankhi_sena_mun View Post
    NOT in AIIMS............ people from abroad come for operation there........
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    ok.............good obsrvation
    Not only AIIMS, Infact India is one of the biggest spot for Medical tourism in world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007RIKY View Post
    Not only AIIMS, Infact India is one of the biggest spot for Medical tourism in world.
    dental tourism.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007RIKY View Post
    Not only AIIMS, Infact India is one of the biggest spot for Medical tourism in world.
    not very good transplant facilities available...in india..only in selected centres......
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    Quote Originally Posted by basanti<<< View Post
    dental tourism.............
    Ask Himanshu.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007RIKY View Post
    Ask Himanshu.......
    daanton ..aur ankhon ka ilaaz karane door se ate hain log ..kyunki yahan sasta padta hai isliye ..facilities toh unke yahan bhi hoti hain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007RIKY View Post
    Not only AIIMS, Infact India is one of the biggest spot for Medical tourism in world.
    Then why Political leaders (recent Soniya Gandhi, Sharad Pawar), cricketers and film start go to other countries for treatment?

    Well point is let Govt try whatever it can do to save life of that girl, the motive may be political but it don't want the blame that Govt has not done enough.

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