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    if anyone have any further doubts on this matter, on the ban applied on roger, kindly contact admin.
    this thread is closed for sometime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramusenator View Post
    you onli knw a few. the ones you care, rest you ignore.
    Ban Requested Members
    the list is incomplete.
    am not saying all left bcuz gangraped.
    am saying nobody sticking around bcuz of gangrapes.
    chalo list dekte hain.....


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    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=299953 - sumitram



    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=233217 - rocky_29
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=179070 - blueberry

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=251992 - rosalie
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=312942 - foxy_lady

    references
    wonderkid
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?316118-MarHin

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.h...amila%E2%8B%86

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?345758-Maro

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?181175-NERORULZ

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?371124-TheFallen
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?330745-ItsmeSal

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.h...78-crazylarkee


    sumi rosa foxy nero ..all personal reson..sumi and foxy returned after that also mizku

    maro still come..nobody bash her ..she is fav here
    itsmesal crazyladki returned,,

    virus personal resons..



    but mods have banned many users for life time that they can not return if they want,..

    rajpal ..and few others and few left by strctness.like ankhi....few chose not to participaate like grace...

    now care about users who never or minimum particiapted in GD and not care about who actually good debaters???
    Thank you bala

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    Quote Originally Posted by basanti<<< View Post
    chalo list dekte hain.....


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    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=299953 - sumitram



    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=233217 - rocky_29
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=179070 - blueberry

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=251992 - rosalie
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?u=312942 - foxy_lady

    references
    wonderkid
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?316118-MarHin

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.h...amila%E2%8B%86

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?345758-Maro

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?181175-NERORULZ

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?371124-TheFallen
    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.htm?330745-ItsmeSal

    http://forum.santabanta.com/member.h...78-crazylarkee


    sumi rosa foxy nero ..all personal reson..sumi and foxy returned after that also mizku

    maro still come..nobody bash her ..she is fav here
    itsmesal crazyladki returned,,

    virus personal resons..



    but mods have banned many users for life time that they can not return if they want,..

    rajpal ..and few others and few left by strctness.like ankhi....few chose not to participaate like grace...

    now care about users who never or minimum particiapted in GD and not care about who actually good debaters???
    mod bans are also overturned after review, DC ban was lifted last day.
    if you are talking about time traveler and rajpal bans, repetitive offences makes it difficult to cop with. they have crossed the line many times, and life ban is given. racism has no place here.
    itsmesal and crazylarki left same day, itsmesal has send a message which was forwarded to mods and admin, he left bcuz of insults,
    misko has openly said he is finding it hard here.
    am not saying all members left bcuz of issues, there is personal issues also.
    i showed you the list bcuz you mentioned about ankhi and grace, but not others.
    now, grace is already here.
    about ankhi you know very well, i had called her back 2 times when she left due to issues from 2 members, ask her. bt am not gona call back again again bcuz its a personal choice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramusenator View Post
    mod bans are also overturned after review, DC ban was lifted last day.
    if you are talking about time traveler and rajpal bans, repetitive offences makes it difficult to cop with. they have crossed the line many times, and life ban is given. racism has no place here.
    itsmesal and crazylarki left same day, itsmesal has send a message which was forwarded to mods and admin, he left bcuz of insults,
    misko has openly said he is finding it hard here.
    am not saying all members left bcuz of issues, there is personal issues also.
    i showed you the list bcuz you mentioned about ankhi and grace, but not others.
    now, grace is already here.
    about ankhi you know very well, i had called her back 2 times when she left due to issues from 2 members, ask her. bt am not gona call back again again bcuz its a personal choice.
    first request that open the thread ..lets talk cool mindly ..otherwise it can be more bad for forum..

    second--..

    why it was getting hard for them to sustain..?? i was bashed so badly ..like social doctor ki chamchi all that ..so ankhi was...i never left [i appreciate that mods reacted on my reports] ..1-2 altercation and they feeling like crushed ..??? how much itsmesal and mizku participated in gd?

    if you have valid point and cA Ncontrol ur emotions then discuss why crying? or dont discuss at all....[not aiming to anybody ..general comment onlyeace:

    AFTER FEW POSTS start cribbing that i am victimised is pathetic not sympathetic,,
    Thank you bala

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    no, however i explain, they not gona believe me; i felt it from the way colonel and grace has expressed.
    they better go to admin, thats why i closed this thread to prevent further escalations.

    if we look at members who debates in GD, gutsy as you say; how many are there ? how can you force ppl to be gutsy to survive in suffer.
    the forum has suffered, there is no bulk posters. there is no knowledge sharing threads,
    thread numbers and views decreased bcuz of that, there is nothin to prove, and its not possible single handedly either.

    my question is what is a debate ? to bash others ? to personally attack them ?
    the source is what has to be tackled here, not the users at the end of it.
    we cant control them, they will stick or they will leave, whatever type of contribution they do, in GD or elsewhere.

    moreover to build a society, its important; we are giving a wrong approach, a society shouldnt be a bashing society however they contribute, we have our set of rules, which say equal for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by basanti<<< View Post
    first request that open the thread ..lets talk cool mindly ..otherwise it can be more bad for forum..

    second--..

    why it was getting hard for them to sustain..?? i was bashed so badly ..like social doctor ki chamchi all that ..so ankhi was...i never left [i appreciate that mods reacted on my reports] ..1-2 altercation and they feeling like crushed ..??? how much itsmesal and mizku participated in gd?

    if you have valid point and cA Ncontrol ur emotions then discuss why crying? or dont discuss at all....[not aiming to anybody ..general comment onlyeace:

    AFTER FEW POSTS start cribbing that i am victimised is pathetic not sympathetic,,
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    To all the mods, if you have any issue on any decision; please community with me directly rather than wrestling it out in public.

    Yes, the ban has been endorse by me as well and a long discussion had already happened with concerned parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    To all the mods, if you have any issue on any decision; please community with me directly rather than wrestling it out in public.

    Yes, the ban has been endorse by me as well and a long discussion had already happened with concerned parties.

    With all due respect,

    Iggy given 2 reasons.

    1. Match of IP with spammers
    2. Mocking him as he get paid for his works as Mod, which was an old issue.

    So which ever is the reason, we want to know. If IP matched then for how many times?
    let it rain over me....

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    Hi Riky,

    Yes the IP had matched. On top of that if the users has this kind of thinking, he simply does not belongs here.


    Quote Originally Posted by Roger69
    Lagata hai Avdhesh ne Forum thread kam hone ki wajah se tumhara Salary rok diya tha...
    chalo R@ngeR ki wajah se tumko salary mil jayega.........

    For the record, I hardly instruct any leader or mod on his work. I only come in picture when some issue arises so it is pretty much an independent work just in case you are not aware how SBF works. Yes, on this issue we too had a discussion and you can rest assure that no individual can assert his own views in the community and we remain an open platform where everybody can express his views responsibly without any fear.

    I do not why we are raising doubts on the system itself or encouraging those who doubt it.

    Regarding discussions, if we hijack a topic leaving little room for an opposite thought, we straight away close the door of our thought process. Anybody who promotes one side discussion is simply not doing himself any favor.

    And abusing me on mails and creating unwanted user names shows your character which has hardly any bearing on my work. So please appreciate the work being done and be constructive in approach as we always have welcomed your views and tried to improve upon based upon your feedback.

    At last, no pointing fingers please. Doesn't get us anywhere.

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    @ avdhesh sir :

    respected sir..
    ur quote about roger69 is totally justified.
    I sincerely request u to take a look at this thread from the start yesterday. You will find tonnes of objectionable words by senior mods against the users. & reply backs by users to the mods.
    Most of them are harsher than wat roger had said.

    I just have 2 questions...
    1) do all of them doesn't belong here for the thinking that they possess...& will be banned?
    2) are mods allowed to dictate the terms and bully them and delete posts, close threads, put posts on approval mode or to shouty at will?

    Sir..after contributing our time n energy for 5 yrs, we are given a medal of non worthy non contributors..and are told that this is the official version n the admin has given confidence about it.
    The mod when asked says 'he feels very pride about it'.
    I just seek a simple reply if this was indeed ur stand too about me, in specific.
    & guide us what shall we do to be counted in as worthy contributors?

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    Namo, as we had discussed this thing in the past as well that the post deletion of yours was a one off incident in a heated discussion where usually users create fake IDs and then comment in non-responsible manner. And that mod action is not in any way the setting standard for my team. I have been responsible for my team and have replied by words and by actions without any fail with best of my intentions. But even I cannot do anything if one starts questioning my own intent in this community. I and my team are not driving the community, rather its a self driven with few fence guards.

    If you think that others are doing a bad job and you can do better; I have always welcomed people who think that they can do good service. Let us not discuss what others are doing. Do tell what can you do? Because that would rather be a easy thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaMo Secular Loverboy View Post
    @ avdhesh sir :

    respected sir..
    ur quote about roger69 is totally justified.
    I sincerely request u to take a look at this thread from the start yesterday. You will find tonnes of objectionable words by senior mods against the users. & reply backs by users to the mods.
    Most of them are harsher than wat roger had said.

    I just have 2 questions...
    1) do all of them doesn't belong here for the thinking that they possess...& will be banned?
    2) are mods allowed to dictate the terms and bully them and delete posts, close threads, put posts on approval mode or to shouty at will?

    Sir..after contributing our time n energy for 5 yrs, we are given a medal of non worthy non contributors..and are told that this is the official version n the admin has given confidence about it.
    The mod when asked says 'he feels very pride about it'.
    I just seek a simple reply if this was indeed ur stand too about me, in specific.
    & guide us what shall we do to be counted in as worthy contributors?
    @avi: sorry, to make matters clear, i shall reply here.

    above is a bunch of crafted lies, instead of all the drama, like i said from the start, namo and grace should had contacted admin, shud had the patience. they didnt, they chose to go war with words.

    now. from namo reply.

    all of them ? since yesterday, you are trying to bring more members against me man and this discussion.
    the users are only NaMo Secular Loverboy & gracefulguy, do not indulge other members into this. to you both i said you are not worthy of an explanations, yes i did, bcuz of various reasons, listed below. (remember, over the years of your stay, i had always given you proper explanations, yday my stand has a reason)

    all others member where having 'roger' ban issue, but you and graceful took it to a personal level to me.

    1) you guys didnt read my explanations, i can show you screenshots where graceful insulted me when i said 'am doing voluntary work', he said 'he is sorry admin stopped my salary'. and you too only interested in bringing other members to discussion never wanted to wait for admin.

    2) onli pops up when members complain about moderators. to take sides, instead of letting the mod and member solve issue you and grace used jump into conclusions, i may remind you various instances, in old suggestion box and this complaint box, you guys calls the mod biased without even analyzing the issue by properly reading the POSTs.

    you and graceful left the forum, you yourself made a post after susu post and said good bye with various reasons in confession thread. now its not the first time you saying good bye. you didnt consult me with anythin about you leaving the forum, then why i shall discuss with you administrative matters ?

    3) you called me names,

    approver
    owner of sbf
    god
    prabhu
    junior prabhu
    god etc

    whenever i honestly try to answer your accusations, you made fun of me; is that the way to debate ?
    when you are short of words you mock. i must react and make things clear to you.

    i will consider you again as worthy again in foru, if you care; i shall respect you again in future, show me what you got man. i will make amendments in the approach towards you and grace then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    Hi Riky,

    Yes the IP had matched. On top of that if the users has this kind of thinking, he simply does not belongs here.

    For the record, I hardly instruct any leader or mod on his work. I only come in picture when some issue arises so it is pretty much an independent work just in case you are not aware how SBF works. Yes, on this issue we too had a discussion and you can rest assure that no individual can assert his own views in the community and we remain an open platform where everybody can express his views responsibly without any fear.

    I do not why we are raising doubts on the system itself or encouraging those who doubt it.

    Regarding discussions, if we hijack a topic leaving little room for an opposite thought, we straight away close the door of our thought process. Anybody who promotes one side discussion is simply not doing himself any favor.

    And abusing me on mails and creating unwanted user names shows your character which has hardly any bearing on my work. So please appreciate the work being done and be constructive in approach as we always have welcomed your views and tried to improve upon based upon your feedback.

    At last, no pointing fingers please. Doesn't get us anywhere.

    'Power & Money are marvelous sources if they remain in pocket but they are terrible masters once they enter the head."

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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    Hi Riky,

    Yes the IP had matched. On top of that if the users has this kind of thinking, he simply does not belongs here.





    For the record, I hardly instruct any leader or mod on his work. I only come in picture when some issue arises so it is pretty much an independent work just in case you are not aware how SBF works. Yes, on this issue we too had a discussion and you can rest assure that no individual can assert his own views in the community and we remain an open platform where everybody can express his views responsibly without any fear.

    I do not why we are raising doubts on the system itself or encouraging those who doubt it.

    Regarding discussions, if we hijack a topic leaving little room for an opposite thought, we straight away close the door of our thought process. Anybody who promotes one side discussion is simply not doing himself any favor.

    And abusing me on mails and creating unwanted user names shows your character which has hardly any bearing on my work. So please appreciate the work being done and be constructive in approach as we always have welcomed your views and tried to improve upon based upon your feedback.

    At last, no pointing fingers please. Doesn't get us anywhere.
    roger has admitted that he made a abusive id named as gane wala kutta and id was banned , if he can admit that this id was made by him then he could have admitted for other ids also , u are totally relying on ip match only and neglecting his contribution of 5-6 years in sbf specially in GD, well some of members can claim that his posts are provocative and reasons bcoz of which some members are leaving forum,

    and why he will do all this , kuch to motive hoga , aapse ladai ya moderators se jhgda , if we agree on those all ip matches then there are ids in the name of members who have friendly relation with roger , why he will abuse his friends

    sir ji just don't rely on iP match only , try to know abut that person also by other members , aiwein hi itne log halla nahin macha rahe , kuch reason hoga tabhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    Namo, as we had discussed this thing in the past as well that the post deletion of yours was a one off incident in a heated discussion where usually users create fake IDs and then comment in non-responsible manner. And that mod action is not in any way the setting standard for my team. I have been responsible for my team and have replied by words and by actions without any fail with best of my intentions. But even I cannot do anything if one starts questioning my own intent in this community. I and my team are not driving the community, rather its a self driven with few fence guards.

    If you think that others are doing a bad job and you can do better; I have always welcomed people who think that they can do good service. Let us not discuss what others are doing. Do tell what can you do? Because that would rather be a easy thing.

    Dear sir,

    I would disagree a bit.

    This is a combined effort here on the forums and people from different cast creed religion views and natioanlity come in.......if any one of them have an issue......it has to be addreessed rather being bullied down upon.

    I was shocked to read Ankhi's statement today wherin she has openly taken Iggy's name........if it wasnt for this argument.......her side of story wud have never been heard !!!!

    She was just asked to leave..........it is this bullying we are talking about.......

    Me, myself faced the same while discussing in GD.....too much of moderation....that too by one single Moderator......no other person has any issue !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    Namo, as we had discussed this thing in the past as well that the post deletion of yours was a one off incident in a heated discussion where usually users create fake IDs and then comment in non-responsible manner. And that mod action is not in any way the setting standard for my team. I have been responsible for my team and have replied by words and by actions without any fail with best of my intentions. But even I cannot do anything if one starts questioning my own intent in this community. I and my team are not driving the community, rather its a self driven with few fence guards.

    If you think that others are doing a bad job and you can do better; I have always welcomed people who think that they can do good service. Let us not discuss what others are doing. Do tell what can you do? Because that would rather be a easy thing.
    Sir..
    That will be really really wrong. I have never ever said that iggy is a bad mod.
    I have voted him the best mod in sbf awards, I told u that 5 days back via pm even when I complained about him, & I told him that in this thread too during the worst of discussions.
    Claiming that I can do things better than others, it would be wrong than anything else.

    Sir, please allow me to raise a few issues, & I promise u, after ur reading them and analysing, ur decision will be accepted by each and every member as a guide and as a head of the family.

    1) roger69 was banned for spam..
    If amitsush's id can be masked, & he's let off when he clarifies it wasn't his id.
    Can roger69's claim not be passed..no full proof online system can prevent a brilliant hacker or masker. 2moro, a genius from china might mask my id and post dirty comments..
    We really think that 2 days of delay to disclose roger was a spammer is too much..
    Our last resort is an appeal to u..pls inquire into the matter and allow a let off if possible. Am sure, after this incident, roger69's id will be highlighted in the system and any further mess ups can be caught as soon as they happen (only if it was indeed roger69 n not some masker or hacker).
    To add, fellow moderators of iggy, basanti n amit are doubting It was roger..
    N passion said he doesn't believe roger can do it.

    2) sir..closing the complaint box n threads at will..
    Then opening them and replying and reclosing it.
    Its claimed that they are the part of a moderator's privileges.
    Please modify this rule..it makes every user feel inferior and held back when mods reply at will and reclose it.

    3) there is too much of moderation in the GD..
    As iggy says he claims balancing is done in GD creating a balance between majority and minority.
    Sir, either delete off the first objectionable reply or let the replies continue and delete them in mass at the end.
    Balancing between majority n minority at sbf? Wat is majority to iggy will be minority to u & a balance for a 3rd user..
    the general feeling is that there is over control in discussions. In this thread, shouty, & others, users are threatened and rules modified at will.

    4) in case of altercations in the public, other mods are directed to fall in to staff code n support.
    & the users are accused of dividing the mod panels.
    Sir, it's a sincere request..& I hv said it earlier too..
    Pls make admin n mods panel non visible to the regular users.
    & in case of altercations and dirty discussions, u be the sole authority and infract or punish both the moderators and the users. It should not be that a mod cant be infracted.
    You are above everyone n it shall be implemented.
    Starting off with yesterday's case itself..if possible.

    5) rules specify something at top of subforums n mods are creating precedences as per situations n likings.
    Please direct the staff to revise the rules and follow them, in writing & not in precedence (occasional exceptions allowed).

    I request u to consider all the requests and deliver any suitable changes or veto it altogether.
    your decisions and any punishments or advice will be most welcome, & will be accepted without any doubts or protests whole heartedly.

    Other users and staff members may discuss n contribute their views or opposition.
    Last edited by NaMo Secular Loverboy; 01-08-2013 at 04:02 PM. Reason: adding moderators biased views about roger69's ban.

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