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    Quote Originally Posted by NaMo Secular Loverboy View Post
    Decent bhai...aapka pms wala point perfect h..I agree.
    Pehle bhi main aur aap aise hi case put 4ward karte the, kal actually pehle hi complaint box me ye chal raha tha, so I n grace just joined there. Still I agree.

    About others..
    1) ye customer care ka matter nhi h yaar..its a decision n he is the highest decision makin authority here.
    Its befitting that a hanged issue is solved by the highest authority avdhesh sir himself.
    2) I agree..totally.
    3) sab colonel ya decent nhi hote bhai..hurt ho kar dishearten ho jate hain aur pm karne ki ichha hi khatam ho jati hai..umeed h aap agree karoge.
    4) actually over moderation aur bullying ka issue bhi kaafi din se log utha rahe hain..iggy ke khilaaf kuch personal agenda nhi h hamara.
    5) full proof facts ip masking pe na toh iggy ke paas ho sakte h na hamare paas. Element of doubt hamesha rahega.
    Hamara view yahi hai ki roger pe vishwaas karke uski baat maan li jaye..afterall 7 saal purana member h.
    6) nahi yaar...yahan aap galat ho...avdhesh sir communication mein jawab dene se kabhi nhi rokte..
    Balki woh iss cheez ko hamesha encourage karte hain aur saaf baat karne walo ko appreciate bhi karte h.
    Amit ne support karne ka clarification diya h aur mujhe nhi lagta avdhesh sir iss baat ka kabhi bhi bura manege. Aisa hota toh mere aur aapki talking terms avdhesh sir se kaafi saal pehle khatam ho chuki hoti.

    1. I agree, that is why I say he should have been contacted in the second place, after contacting Iggy.

    2. Thanks.

    3. I agree buddy, but prove toh karna padega na..? Directly PM the admin.

    4. I have had this issue since 2009. Banned THRICE for raising voice, overturned every time by Avdhesh or some Mod. BUT, I have seen improvements. What I have noticed is that Iggy takes an action only when he is PMed about it. He does not directly moderate threads. That is what I feel.

    5. Yes brother, element of doubt will always be there. That is why we have to always work with them. Iggy accused me of Killing the forums not more than an year ago. But, I clarified. Sometimes we need to keep our ego aside, even when we feel we are not at fault. We need to understand that the other person is NOT working with a negative intent. Even I want him to be back - all issues cleared. Let nobody even know if he was at fault or not, make it all personal and have him back. I am sure both Avdhesh and Iggy would readily agree to anything as long as it is good for the forums.

    6. No man. He is openly posting against fellow Mods and the Admin. That is against the spirit of the team. Had this happened some 1-2 years ago, I would have made an issue of it and sent 20 PMs to Avdhesh. Probably even started a few threads about how Mods have no trust on fellow mods etc. Just like I did in the past, a few would never let such an opportunity go by. Would that be good for our forum.?

    I agree with most of what you say, I also agree with most of what Iggy says. Actually, the matter is very small.. Only our altercations have spoiled it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramusenator View Post
    if you feel so, then i would suggest rotation system.
    so many mods will not attend topics with moderation power on single day.
    we, mods decide among ourself and assign a day of the week for each mod to moderate in General Discussion section.

    through this, all other mods can participate in discussion and only one mod will take action on one single day in GD.
    and when some topics that will extend to other day, as we have the rotation system a new mod to continue moderation.


    give me your opinion.
    Would it be possible for moderators to work under such schedule..? I am not sure if you can ask someone to Moderate every Wednesday. Would he be willing to work under such limitations?

    I do not think there is any problem with the current scenario man. I strongly believe that there has been some confusion and that is why things have escalated and reached to this point.

    As long as moderation is done based on "Reports" , and we have a chance to PM Senior Mod/Admin and get infractions overturned, I am fine with it. I do not know about others, but I have been satisfied most of the times by the Admin. And you would know more than anyone that I have had a lot of problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_decent_1 View Post



    1. I agree, that is why I say he should have been contacted in the second place, after contacting Iggy.

    2. Thanks.

    3. I agree buddy, but prove toh karna padega na..? Someone accuses a moderator of "taking money for the job" , and suddenly a new if "workingfor5000" (not exact) is created. Once it's a co-incidence. Twice, it would raise eyebrows. STILL, if Roger is clean, he will have to prove it man.

    4. I have had this issue since 2009. Banned THRICE for raising voice, overturned every time by Avdhesh or some Mod. BUT, I have seen improvements. What I have noticed is that Iggy takes an action only when he is PMed about it. He does not directly moderate threads. That is what I feel.

    5. Yes brother, element of doubt will always be there. That is why we have to always work with them. Iggy accused me of Killing the forums not more than an year ago. But, I clarified. Sometimes we need to keep our ego aside, even when we feel we are not at fault. We need to understand that the other person is NOT working with a negative intent. Even I want him to be back - all issues cleared. Let nobody even know if he was at fault or not, make it all personal and have him back. I am sure both Avdhesh and Iggy would readily agree to anything as long as it is good for the forums.

    6. No man. He is openly posting against fellow Mods and the Admin. That is against the spirit of the team. Had this happened some 1-2 years ago, I would have made an issue of it and sent 20 PMs to Avdhesh. Probably even started a few threads about how Mods have no trust on fellow mods etc. Just like I did in the past, a few would never let such an opportunity go by. Would that be good for our forum.?

    I agree with most of what you say, I also agree with most of what Iggy says. Actually, the matter is very small.. Only our altercations have spoiled it.

    A few things I would like to know :

    (1) What is Roger's Real name ?
    (2) Where does he work ?
    (3) What has been his posting trend ?

    G'day
    1) Actually altercations and accusations prevented it. Avdhesh sir not being online yesterday was a reason too. Still, that's the way to do it..agreed.
    2) welcome.
    3) he is participating now & giving his version. Lets see.
    4) read avdhesh sir's reply. He said even if the actions were wrong, the intent wasn't.
    & I totally agree to whatever u & sir think about it.
    Nothing is personal at all..yet, me or gracefulguy are not sorry for raising the issue.
    & I must say that credit goes as much to riky, basanti, amit, u, susu, veeru paaji n gudu for the inputs.
    Anyways, lets hope it settles down all well.
    5) yea, any decision avdhesh sir takes on the issues are acceptable fully. Nothing personal or grudges will be carried 4ward against iggy or sam ever. You know that decent, u follow the same too.
    6)I think otherwise..It's his moral duty to reply n post his clarification when asked by the admin avdhesh sir yaar.
    yea, to some ppl it might feel like a dispute, yet a closer look instantly tells that its just a conversation between 2 mutually trusting persons.
    Still..ur opinion is respected.

    I agree on altercations complicating everything.

    I don't hv any knowledge about roger's real life stats..nor I hv them about iggy's..but, like u, am interested too now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaMo Secular Loverboy View Post
    1) Actually altercations and accusations prevented it. Avdhesh sir not being online yesterday was a reason too. Still, that's the way to do it..agreed.
    2) welcome.
    3) he is participating now & giving his version. Lets see.
    4) read avdhesh sir's reply. He said even if the actions were wrong, the intent wasn't.
    & I totally agree to whatever u & sir think about it.
    Nothing is personal at all..yet, me or gracefulguy are not sorry for raising the issue.
    & I must say that credit goes as much to riky, basanti, amit, u, susu, veeru paaji n gudu for the inputs.
    Anyways, lets hope it settles down all well.
    5) yea, any decision avdhesh sir takes on the issues are acceptable fully. Nothing personal or grudges will be carried 4ward against iggy or sam ever. You know that decent, u follow the same too.
    6)I think otherwise..It's his moral duty to reply n post his clarification when asked by the admin avdhesh sir yaar.
    yea, to some ppl it might feel like a dispute, yet a closer look instantly tells that its just a conversation between 2 mutually trusting persons.
    Still..ur opinion is respected.

    I agree on altercations complicating everything.

    I don't hv any knowledge about roger's real life stats..nor I hv them about iggy's..but, like u, am interested too now.
    As long as the Forum benefits.
    You get a +1 on the respect scale for keeping an open mind.

    Lets just try and work in harmony and I am sure we can work things out - the gentleman way.

    G'day

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_decent_1 View Post
    As long as the Forum benefits.
    You get a +1 on the respect scale for keeping an open mind.

    Lets just try and work in harmony and I am sure we can work things out - the gentleman way.

    G'day
    Likewise decent, likewise.
    Liked the way u pacified the heated discussion between us n iggy yesterday.
    Already repped n commended u for that yesterday itself.
    Always a pleasure interacting n learnin 4m u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gudu Gudu Returns View Post
    Avi bro, I hold you in high esteem.

    As you said long back...THERE WILL BE THINGS AND IT WON'T END HERE, There will always be..W.R.T accusations and complaints.

    But Avi bro, leave aside all hearsay, when DC is banned, for he gave negative reppz and unbanned just yesterday,
    don't you think Roger needs to be given a second chance?

    AAP ko kitni baar roger ne gali di hai...mention that..
    'Power & Money are marvelous sources if they remain in pocket but they are terrible masters once they enter the head."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raja~Bhoj View Post
    Well, what can say if I was declared as 'spammer' without any fault from my side. I made two posts explaining everything. No Mod who was supporting the ban, has replied to them. You came and declared that these were my Ids. Then what is left for discussion?
    Its technical issue, matter of fact. I technically don't understand these matters. I have paper before me submitted by my office from same computer, same net and all showing different IP address of filer. I looked them first time seriously. So far, I was thinking that IP address is constant for computer.
    After all you and your staff are expert in this issue, decide whatever you find from facts.
    and about my attitude in last post, can you understand how a person feels when he suddenly thrown out by false allegations only because he objected actions of one mod? Step in my shoes for some time and feel it.
    U abuse many times not only me but many members.. If some mods gave you infractions and afterwards you created many IDs to degrade mods
    thn definitely they take action against you. many members got banned n they came with new ID. if u prove yourself n do betterment for the forum
    than definitely admin will give you a second chance and open your banned ID i.e roger69.

    So think wisely and don't take things personally.

    PS - I donno the core issue...but i m telling my point of views..
    'Power & Money are marvelous sources if they remain in pocket but they are terrible masters once they enter the head."

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    OMG -- Is it really true that a single member can affect the views of a 10 year old forum like Santa Banta ???
    This looks like a case of --Too many cooks[
    mods] spoiling the broth [forum] !!
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    Its actually sad to see when old and respected members are bashed (not literally) by mods ..and equally sad to see a mod being bashed up by members .
    But it is a fact that the forum needs to pull up its pants and not let ego issues get in the middle of its functioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shivani2121 View Post
    OMG -- Is it really true that a single member can affect the views of a 10 year old forum like Santa Banta ???
    This looks like a case of --Too many cooks[
    mods] spoiling the broth [forum] !!
    No,
    It is just that a few of the forum members chose this moment to discuss all XYZ issues they had.

    Ek bahana chahiye thha, mil gaya.

    For Roger, a respected member would CARE about the forum and passify heated discussions. He should have PMed the admin long ago.

    G'day

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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    To all the mods, if you have any issue on any decision; please community with me directly rather than wrestling it out in public.

    Yes, the ban has been endorse by me as well and a long discussion had already happened with concerned parties.
    I think this should end the matter. Why is everyone talking after this is said??? mods lets discuss in PMs & all members please trust admin.

    Roger is so secretive , hence to make mess here . & iggy is here we all know him well... why is everyone acting like they dont know how iggy is??? like they dont know how much he works for forum?? iggy has explained so much only to make u guys understand , but everybody seem to just enjoy accusing him. please keep calm.

    Hi, mods have just been doing whats right. When members ask for personal bans, sometimes its tough but we do... and all abusive and members who insult others and fight insanely out of topic, have been given chances, only when situation goes out of control ban issued.
    Please do not take undue advantage of politeness of mods & eagerness to answer u by doubting their judgement. Iggy is making extra effortsto maintain peace & harmony in forum .. & he is replying to all your questions to keep u happy. Nobody cares for u or for forum so much. please understand its your home.. & steps are to maintain harmony. please co-operate.

    If roger / banned members behave well they can definitely come back. We have nothing personal... & come back be normal happy members respecting others & abiding rules.


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    The matter finally was settled through PMs and Roger's banning infraction has been reversed.

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    good to know ...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by avdhesh View Post
    The matter finally was settled through PMs and Roger's banning infraction has been reversed.
    Good news finally

    Thank you Avi Bro
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