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    Yesterday was the birthday of martyr freedom fighter Sukhdev, who laid down his life at the young age of 22 for the country. Born on May 15, 1907 in Ludhiana, Sukhdev Thapar did something his life would never have imagined.
    Sukhdev along with fellow revolutionaries Bhagat Singh and Rajguru was hanged on March 23 1931 in Lahore Central Jail for throwing bombs inside Assembly. ‘Inquilaab Zindabad’ was the slogan which echoed around the jail. They laid down their lives at very young ages in the fight of freedom of their country. They are called martyrs, but, what actually happened. On the birth anniversary of martyr Sukhdev, Dailybhaskar.com brings you the truth behind their hanging back in 1931.

    On April 8 1929, Bhagat Singh along with Batukeshwar Dutt threw two bombs inside the Central Legislative Assembly from the Visitor's Gallery. Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, and Sukhdev were charged with the murder.

    However, it was said that the bodies were secretly taken out and burnt on the banks of River Sutlej, the truth is something else.

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    One example of the resoluteness of Sardar Bhagat Singh and his associates remains inspirational even today. They were scheduled to be hanged on March 24, 1931 but such was the popularity of Bhagat Singh, Rajguru and Sukhdev that the British Government was afraid of the public outrage. Therefore, they hanged a day before the decided day, that is, on March 23 1931.


    What British government did in the name of hanging them was coarse. After they hanged the revolutionaries, they fired at the dead bodies, cut them into pieces and burnt those mortal remains using kerosene. After that, they discharged the remains into River Sutlej.

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    A Chandigarh publisher, Unistar, blazed the trail by releasing a book in London. Titled Some Hidden Facts: Martyrdom of Shaheed Bhagat Singh, it carries the subtitle “Secrets unfurled by an Intelligence Bureau Agent of British-India”.

    The real focus of the book is on the ‘hidden facts’ pertaining to the execution of Bhagat Singh. Indeed, the book is an attempt to provide new answers to the innumerable unresolved puzzles — e.g., why the unprecedented hanging of the three martyrs at night; why the dead bodies were not handed over to the relatives but cremated post-haste by the administration without the mandatory postmortem; above all, what was the place and nature of the ‘cremation’?

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    Yeah... This is the TRUTH.. Mainly because there are no proofs and references.

    Also, earth is flat, moon is a star and Sun was set on fire by mercury..

    COME ON MAN..!!! What makes you believe all this..???

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_decent_1 View Post
    Yeah... This is the TRUTH.. Mainly because there are no proofs and references.

    Also, earth is flat, moon is a star and Sun was set on fire by mercury..

    COME ON MAN..!!! What makes you believe all this..???

    Brother I read it in the news today got shocked and couldn’t stop myself from posting it. Before I posted I did some homework in Google and after I realized that there can be truth in this news then only I posted it here…


    For the reference I have already mentioned the name and publisher of the book dealing in this hidden truth...

    You also try to find out what is the real truth and inform us about your findings....

    That is the whole purpose of posting in general discussion. So that others can also share their findings and opinions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnroses1979 View Post
    , Dailybhaskar.com brings you the truth behind their hanging back in 1931.
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    For the reference I have already mentioned the name and publisher of the book dealing in this hidden truth...

    You cannot say it is the truth. May i remind you that truth is always far too strong a word to use unless there is absolute veracity which can be repetitively analysed and still remain the same; solid existing evidence, factualness, so on. All of us have the capacity to open up a can of worms by researching and providing alternate answers, but that doesn't mean they'd be the TRUTH. Not unless there is EXISTING evidence.

    Homework from google, that too from an unreliable source, is not proof. What you can say is that there is a likelyhood, a remote or strong possibility - nothing more. Up until then, the only fact here is that this story is nothing more than a bizarre cooked up tale. Quite possibly conjured up by an author who wants milage on his book sales or holds the outlook that perhaps one day another film will be made.


    Meanwhile, here is the only truth as close as we'll ever get to know:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisbonstar28 View Post
    You cannot say it is the truth. May i remind you that truth is always far too strong a word to use unless there is absolute veracity which can be repetitively analysed and still remain the same; solid existing evidence, factualness, so on. All of us have the capacity to open up a can of worms by researching and providing alternate answers, but that doesn't mean they'd be the TRUTH. Not unless there is EXISTING evidence.

    Homework from google, that too from an unreliable source, is not proof. What you can say is that there is a likelyhood, a remote or strong possibility - nothing more. Up until then, the only fact here is that this story is nothing more than a bizarre cooked up tale. Quite possibly conjured up by an author who wants milage on his book sales or holds the outlook that perhaps one day another film will be made.


    Meanwhile, here is the only truth as close as we'll ever get to know:

    Tks for sharing your opinion.

    But your opinion is also based on assumption and not the truth.


    The actual truth lies between these questions:

    1) Why British executed these three martyrs a day before the decided day?


    2) Why were their bodies not handed over to their relatives for last rituals but instead cremated hastily by the British administration? That too without any postmortem?


    3) What was the place and nature of `cremation`?


    Why don’t you find answers of these question using your `reliable` sources of Google ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnroses1979 View Post
    Tks for sharing your opinion.

    But your opinion is also based on assumption and not the truth.


    The actual truth lies between these questions:

    1) Why British executed these three martyrs a day before the decided day?


    2) Why were their bodies not handed over to their relatives for last rituals but instead cremated hastily by the British administration? That too without any postmortem?


    3) What was the place and nature of `cremation`?


    Why don’t you find answers of these question using your `reliable` sources of Google ??
    Well, here, the author of the book is the one who is bringing to refute a set of beliefs that are popular by consensus. Therefore, the onus is on him to provide evidence of that, and sound evidence it must be, and not just rumours or evidence that is anecdotal or based circumstantially. The onus cannot be placed onto us readers because we are not the ones who are making the new claim or defending any old one . I hope thats clear.

    The questions you've raised are good ones, they relate also to USA and Bin Laden's body. I guess they can be answered intelligently if tried. But one thing i'll say for sure, is that, you cannot make a question into a statement without first having proven facts. The truth does not lie within those questions you've given — only suspicion does. A food for thought (so to speak)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisbonstar28 View Post
    Well, here, the author of the book is the one who is bringing to refute a set of beliefs that are popular by consensus. Therefore, the onus is on him to provide evidence of that, and sound evidence it must be, and not just rumours or evidence that is anecdotal or based circumstantially. The onus cannot be placed onto us readers because we are not the ones who are making the new claim or defending any old one . I hope thats clear.

    The questions you've raised are good ones, they relate also to USA and Bin Laden's body. I guess they can be answered intelligently if tried. But one thing i'll say for sure, is that, you cannot make a question into a statement without first having proven facts. The truth does not lie within those questions you've given — only suspicion does. A food for thought (so to speak)
    As you said these are very vital questions need to be answered.

    And once again for the definition of truth. Truth is not always what has actually happened but it is mostly what is been told by the people or the authorities who were in total control of the situation.


    Had the British authority that time has just handed over the dead bodies of these martyrs (which also was the regular procedure) these questions wouldn’t have arrived.


    And to remind you it is the questioning only which compels to unearth the biggest of truths always…

    Some historians are pursuing the truth behind these events and may be one day they will unearth this truth also. So wait till then................

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    Brother,
    The questions are vague.

    First and foremost, they were executed a day before because there were chances of public outrage and disturbance on the actual date.

    About handing over the body, they were convicted as terrorists. Was Afzal Guru's body handed over..? or Kasab's ??? or Bin Laden's..??

    There are two thing :

    (1) Truth
    (2) Co-indicence

    What this author has 'assumed' is not real.. These are ambigous findings probably brought up to sell his book. The people who hanged them will not rise from the dead and answer these questions..

    The author has played the simlest game.. He has put in question an incident to which all evidence is dead.

    G'day
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnroses1979 View Post
    As you said these are very vital questions need to be answered.

    And once again for the definition of truth. Truth is not always what has actually happened but it is mostly what is been told by the people or the authorities who were in total control of the situation.


    Had the British authority that time has just handed over the dead bodies of these martyrs (which also was the regular procedure) these questions wouldn’t have arrived.


    And to remind you it is the questioning only which compels to unearth the biggest of truths always…

    Some historians are pursuing the truth behind these events and may be one day they will unearth this truth also. So wait till then................


    Truth is not what has been told by people, it's more than that. I really cannot see whats given you that idea. Truth is always fact based proven; something that can be challenged and still remain unarguably the same, unless the unravelling of new facts come up. If historians can do that, or if this author can, then what could be more wonderful? I'm all in favour of seeing the truths.

    But i am dubious, reason being ; The author says they were hanged just enough to break the necks because revenge through pain infliction and eventually shooting was to be sought by the family of a police officer they had killed.

    We all know that breaking of the neck can cause instant paralysis and total numbness. It kind of defeats the objective of enduring torture doesn't it? And whats the feasibility of an executioner guaranteeing a death-free breaking of the neck through a hanging? Even surgeons of today cannot guarantee a risk free precision operation of the vertebral structure, and yet these guys swung to and fro freely with their entire body weight pulling away at their fractured necks.

    Whats even more ludicrous is that he claims they were then cut down and thrown in the back of a truck that was fully laden with wood and driven several miles away. Back then, how many bump free roads were there? its a fact that even the slightest of movement would have killed them - there and then.

    The author is the Godson of an alleged eye witness, he lives in UK and has made previous attempts to make money out of this story. Film producers have turned him down and now he has resorted to making money through a book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_decent_1 View Post
    Brother,
    The questions are vague.

    First and foremost, they were executed a day before because there were chances of public outrage and disturbance on the actual date.

    About handing over the body, they were convicted as terrorists. Was Afzal Guru's body handed over..? or Kasab's ??? or Bin Laden's..??

    There are two thing :

    (1) Truth
    (2) Co-indicence

    What this author has 'assumed' is not real.. These are ambigous findings probably brought up to sell his book. The people who hanged them will not rise from the dead and answer these questions..

    The author has played the simlest game.. He has put in question an incident to which all evidence is dead.

    G'day
    Brother the people who assassinated them were the Indian employees of the British Empire and if they had any self respect, love for their mother land and guts they would never have worked for the British authorities at first...
    So these traitors will speak truth ??
    I think many many more truths are buried inside all the jails during the British rules which can never see the light of day.


    And by the way it is always said that the British assassinated these martyrs a day before because of fears of public outrage. This is very cleverly planned news posed by the media of those times..
    Do public had any capacity of ability to disturb any event or decision of the British during that time? If so afraid was the British Empire was of the public then they would have given life sentence to these martyrs instead of the death penalty at the fist place. This was a news spread by them just to pacify the angry public & cover their wrong doings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisbonstar28 View Post


    Truth is not what has been told by people, it's more than that. I really cannot see whats given you that idea. Truth is always fact based proven; something that can be challenged and still remain unarguably the same, unless the unravelling of new facts come up. If historians can do that, or if this author can, then what could be more wonderful? I'm all in favour of seeing the truths.

    But i am dubious, reason being ; The author says they were hanged just enough to break the necks because revenge through pain infliction and eventually shooting was to be sought by the family of a police officer they had killed.

    We all know that breaking of the neck can cause instant paralysis and total numbness. It kind of defeats the objective of enduring torture doesn't it? And whats the feasibility of an executioner guaranteeing a death-free breaking of the neck through a hanging? Even surgeons of today cannot guarantee a risk free precision operation of the vertebral structure, and yet these guys swung to and fro freely with their entire body weight pulling away at their fractured necks.

    Whats even more ludicrous is that he claims they were then cut down and thrown in the back of a truck that was fully laden with wood and driven several miles away. Back then, how many bump free roads were there? its a fact that even the slightest of movement would have killed them - there and then.

    The author is the Godson of an alleged eye witness, he lives in UK and has made previous attempts to make money out of this story. Film producers have turned him down and now he has resorted to making money through a book.

    Yes truth is based on facts and proofs. And there were no proof given by the British. Their own jail employees carried out the said assignation a day before the decided day. They did not even handed over the dead bodies to the relatives and told them that they have cremated the dead bodies.. So where is any proof of their claims ??
    Does the innocent public should believe what these crook, cruel and unreliable British authorities told them?
    Do the public have any source or any ability to find out what actually happed?
    Do you think the British employees who conspired in this assignation will dare to tell the truth? No one even dared to talk those days they knew what will be the consequences?

    So if someone is trying to bring out the truth we cannot just dismiss his attempt claiming he is also a greedy author just like anthers to attract attention to his book. If no producer is ready to make any film on his book this doesn’t means that his finding can not be true? The producers have their own criteria to invest money in films which can give them the maximum profits.

    Not to forget he has one eyewitness who has given all accounts in details of the event.

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    Here are the extract of the book for the SBF readers to read and analyse their opinions :

    In Punjab, the spirit of Bhagat Singh is rising again: preparations have started to organise big events to commemorate in a befitting manner the 75th anniversary of his martyrdom on March 23, 2006, and his birth centenary the following year, on September 28, 2007. Besides a series of huge melas, rallies and processions, explosion of theatrical bombardment, a spurt of books and treatises and a plethora of political rhetoric, one may expect the occasion to open a Pandora’s box of controversies, old and new. In fact, a Chandigarh publisher, Unistar, blazed the trail by releasing a book in London (on October 28). For all one knows, its hitting the bookstands might prove the stirring of a hornet’s nest. Titled Some Hidden Facts: Martyrdom of Shaheed Bhagat Singh, it carries the subtitle “Secrets unfurled by an Intelligence Bureau Agent of British-India”.

    The real focus of the book is on the ‘hidden facts’ pertaining to the execution of Bhagat Singh. Indeed, the book is an attempt to provide new answers to the innumerable unresolved puzzles — e.g., why the unprecedented hanging of the three martyrs at night; why the dead bodies were not handed over to the relatives but cremated post-haste by the administration without the mandatory postmortem; above all, what was the place and nature of the ‘cremation’?

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    The chief source of the startling information is a man who was a British toady — in fact, a most trusted secret agent of the British government. This man called Dalip Singh Allahabadi had worked as a gardener at Anand Bhawan, Allahabad, and had later acquired the dubious distinction of slapping Jawaharlal Nehru when the latter was leading a demonstration against the Simon Commission.


    Kulwant Singh Kooner, the co-author of the present book, is the adopted godson of Allahabadi; he lives in Sinfin, Derby (UK). Allahabadi died in 1986 and the two never met again. Meanwhile, the godson had worked out a book based on the notes taken by him but, those being the days of the Emergency, his real father would not let him publish it; in fact, the father pretended that a publisher friend of his was interested in seeing it and he got the manuscript from Kulwant and destroyed it.


    Only after the death of his father, in 1992, Kulwant started the process of working again on such material as his memory afforded; he wanted a movie to be based on Allahabadi’s version of the story, but no one took him seriously. And then he met the co-author, G S Sindhra, a homoeopathic doctor, who put in a lot of additional information into Allahabadi’s narrative through research in the British Library, London.

    According to Allahabadi — as recalled by Kulwant and presented by Sindhra — the ‘execution’ of Bhagat Singh, Rajguru and Sukhdev marked the execution of a conspiracy code-named “Operation Trojan Horse”, which, in effect, facilitated the pacification of the British officers in general and the prospective in-laws of the late J P Saunders in particular. Accordingly, Bhagat Singh and his associates did go through the formality of ‘hanging’ but only to the extent of breaking their necks; semi-conscious, they were taken to the Lahore Cantonment where the ‘Death Squad’, comprising Saunder’s family, shot them to quench their thirst for revenge.

    Since doing all this during day time could have invited a violent reaction from the people, the ‘execution’ was performed at night; for the same reason, the bullet-ridden bodies were neither sent for postmortem nor handed over to the relatives. Instead, most surreptitiously, these were taken in a lorry to a pre-fixed isolated place on a kutcha-road (6 miles away from Lahore, on the right bank of the Beas where it meets the Sutlej) and burnt to ashes. And, to put the people on the wrong track, some flesh and bones were half burnt and buried on the western bank of the Sutlej, near Hussainiwala. Two Indian agents were sent to Lahore to pose as volunteers and tell the Congress people that they had seen at Ganda Singh Wala a big burning pyre from a distance.

    Believing the story, some people (including Bhagat’s sister Bibi Amar Kaur) reached the ‘hot’ spot, dug up the flesh and half-burnt bones (plus one big broken but uncharred bone which they surmised must have been the arm of Bhagat Singh, the tallest of the three) that lay buried there, and took these back to Lahore where the half-burnt stuff was ‘properly’ cremated on the bank of the Ravi in the midst of sloganeering crowds, all in tears.

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